{"id":940,"date":"2026-06-04T09:35:40","date_gmt":"2026-06-04T09:35:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/usmovingexpertss.com\/?p=940"},"modified":"2026-06-04T09:35:40","modified_gmt":"2026-06-04T09:35:40","slug":"mcleod-goes-after-johnson-webster-in-sc-democratic-governor-debate-6-takeaways","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/usmovingexpertss.com\/?p=940","title":{"rendered":"McLeod goes after Johnson, Webster in SC Democratic governor debate. 6 takeaways"},"content":{"rendered":"<article><!-- --><!-- --><!-- WPS-5038 -- removed the script from WPS and added the placeholder for trinity player --><!-- --><!-- --><!-- --><!-- --><!-- --><!-- --><!-- CONTENT --><!--[--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Charleston attorney Mullins McLeod, who was in third place for the Democratic nomination for South Carolina governor according to a went on the attack Wednesday in a televised debate with state Rep. Jermaine Johnson and Greenville businessman Billy Webster.<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/usmovingexpertss.com\/?p=938\">State Sen. Kimbrell ends his 2026 GOP bid for SC gov days before June 9 primary<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>The three faced off in at the SC ETV studios in Columbia. It was the final televised debate before Tuesday\u2019s primary. If no one earns a majority of the vote in the Democratic primary on June 9, the top two will advance to a runoff.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Here are six takeaways:<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<h2>McLeod goes after Johnson and Webster<\/h2>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>When answering questions, McLeod used part of his speaking time to call out his opponents by name.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Because McLeod tried to contrast himself Johnson and Webster by invoking their names in responses multiple times, he allowed them to have extra camera time. The rules allowed for 30-second rebuttals if another candidate attacks them.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen Mr. Johnson talks about the majority has been the problem, he fails to tell the people that he has voted with that super majority more than 90% of the time, and it\u2019s not by an accident,\u201d McLeod said giving an example of the passage of an electric utilities bill.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Johnson said he worked with the Electric Justice Coalition to amend the bill and improve the legislation which he said he didn\u2019t support.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you\u2019re in the super minority in the state house, that\u2019s all you can do is help alleviate some of the pain of the people of South Carolina,\u201d Johnson said.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>In a question about growth and having infrastructure to handle it, McLeod took aim at private equity firms for fueling home construction.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe can slow down that development by simply banning private equity firms like Mr. Webster\u2019s purchasing homes in South Carolina,\u201d McLeod said.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>In response to the moderator\u2019s question Webster said the state needs to have statewide plans that integrate infrastructure, conservation and development. He later responded to McLeod.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cMost of the things Mr. McLeod says about me are just water vapor. I don\u2019t know where they come from, I don\u2019t know where they go,\u201d Webster said. \u201dAnd if you\u2019re going to be on the stage and run for governor, you better start checking your facts. What you just said is patently false.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>But Johnson and Webster refrained from initiating attacks on McLeod, which didn\u2019t give him any additional time.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>When the debate ended Johnson and Webster hugged and later, Johnson and Webster both said they respected one another.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cJermaine has made me a better candidate. I\u2019ve never run for public office before. I don\u2019t really know what this looks like,\u201d Webster said. \u201cI am who I am, and I try to be as authentic as I can, because I\u2019m not good at being somebody else, and Jermaine has made me better at what I do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ll stay away from characterizing Mr. McLeod,\u201d Webster said.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Johnson said he respects people who respect him.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI believe he just deserves the respect,\u201d Johnson said of Webster. \u201cHe\u2019s not a mudslinger, I\u2019m not a mudslinger. We\u2019re fighting for the people of South Carolina, and I think that\u2019s what people need to see, is that people who have common agendas, common goals to fight for the people of South Carolina, they can have mutual respect. Now, I\u2019m not going to address Mr. McLeod, I just told him at the end that I was praying for him.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<h2>Gears turning in Webster\u2019s head<\/h2>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>While answering questions, Webster had a tendency to look down toward his lectern and not at the camera.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>After the debate, he admitted that his campaign spokeswoman, Jada Samuel, yells at him for that habit while speaking.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I\u2019m thinking, I tend to look down. I mean, I\u2019m not looking for any answers because they\u2019re done there, it\u2019s just a legal pad, but I just I\u2019ve always done it that way, my children drive me nuts about it,\u201d Webster said. \u201cI think before I speak. That\u2019s not a stage you want to misspeak on, and you know, I think I may be a little more deliberate in delivery.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/usmovingexpertss.com\/?p=936\">\u2018He\u2019s forever 14\u2019: Carmack-Belton\u2019s parents denounce not-guilty verdict<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<h2>Johnson defends immigration enforcement<\/h2>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>McLeod tried to tie Johnson to supporting Immigration and Customs Enforcement, an agency not popular among the Democratic electorate for tactics used during the Trump administration.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe literally voted to create ICE in South Carolina,\u201d McLeod said.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>In 2023, a bill passed the General Assembly unanimously for SLED to work with ICE, but that was during the Biden administration.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe cannot allow the Republicans to hijack this message that we don\u2019t support a strong border, and that\u2019s what I did. I worked with the Democrats in the House, and we worked together to make sure that we created strong borders, and we\u2019re protecting the most vulnerable here in South Carolina,\u201d Johnson said.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<h2>All skeptical of future data centers<\/h2>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>When it came to data centers, candidates were asked if they supported the growth of data centers in the state.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWho\u2019s not buying the data center snake oil? The people of South Carolina, they ain\u2019t buying it, folks, because these data centers, they do not create jobs,\u201d McLeod said. \u201cAll they do is rob our water and drive up the cost of our power.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Webster said he wants a one-year rolling moratorium on data centers \u201cuntil we understand better if there are benefits or if that technology changes, which makes them desirable for the state. Right now, the answer to that is a solid no.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Johnson said he introduced a resolution to have a moratorium on the construction of new data centers.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have to know about the technology, we have to know about where they\u2019re going and how they\u2019re going to be doing it,\u201d Johnson said. \u201cI\u2019m the one who coined the phrase BYOE. You\u2019re going to come to South Carolina, bring your own energy. You cannot come here and use up our resources. You cannot come up here and drive up our energy costs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<h2>Moderator had to keep the peace<\/h2>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Moderator Gavin Jackson cut off McLeod 11 times as his time expired while answering questions. Candidates also were told not to crosstalk over each other, but during rebuttals by other candidates, McLeod at times tried to continue speaking.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>McLeod, who did not speak to the media after the debate, also at points tried to respond to a rebuttal.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s no rebuttal to a rebuttal, we talked about this before,\u201d Jackson said on air to McLeod.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>At another point, Jackson had to tell McLeod, \u201cthese are the rules we all agreed to.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<h2>How did the candidates prep for the debate<\/h2>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Johnson\u2019s debate prep included two Columbia attorneys playing his opponents in two mock debates. Chris Kenney, who has done legal work for the state Democratic Party in the past, played McLeod. Rhodes Bailey, who ran for state House in 2020, played Webster.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Webster told the media afterward he did not have anyone act as his opponents during his debate prep.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s just not the way I process information,\u201d Webster said.<\/p>\n<p><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>Before the debate started, McLeod walked over to Webster and handed him a piece of paper. Webster\u2019s staff quickly took it away, but Webster said it appeared to be a bank statement.<\/p>\n<p><!-- --><!--]--><!--[--><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt had something to do with my godson, who was Zion Williamson, the basketball player, and if you talk about something out of left field, it\u2019s just astounding what he decides makes sense for him,\u201d Webster said. \u201cThe purpose was to rattle me in my opening. That\u2019s what trial lawyers do. 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